Dr. Connie Omari
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the black Marriage and Family Therapy Matters podcast, where we are breaking generational curses in the black community. Today’s guest is BC BC. Can you please help me pronounce your last name, whichever one you’re free to go by?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Absolutely, my last name is but a mossy; the G is silent. It’s just.
Dr. Connie Omari
lovely, but Abasi. Okay, and I hear that there’s another last name that’s coming soon. You want to share that way?
Bisi Gbadamosi
I might keep that one to myself.
Dr. Connie Omari
So awesome. Well, coming soon. All right. Well, BC, can I give him an introduction to you? Okay, perfect. So BC is a mental health counselor in Florida, specializing in women of color, Christian women, racial trauma, and faith-related trauma. Her personal connection to these areas creates a space for you to truly be seen and heard. Thank you so much, BC, for that very transparent, natural human interaction. Can you tell me a little bit more about how you kind of got into the space?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah, absolutely. I like to say that when a therapist specializes in something, it’s often something that they can relate to firsthand. Yes, that’s so true for me, especially in 2020, at the height of the pandemic or so much social and political unrest, and I experienced some pretty heavy trauma in the church that I’d grown up in. And it was surrounding Greece; it was just after the murder, Floyd. And when I was wrestling with the reaction to people around me in a predominantly white church, it really was kind of earth-shaking to see that people who were supposed to be brothers and sisters, and finding Christ could say such things that directly impacted my value on this earth, the value of my family members, my friends who look like me, and it really kind of was eye-opening to the fact that this, unfortunately, is not a unique experience that only I have. But there are a lot of other people who have been hurt in this way. salutely Absolutely.
Dr. Connie Omari
That’s got to be the most heartbreaking experience. I mean, you’re in church, and that’s obviously important to you and your faith and your calling. And the people that you’re supposed to be worshiping with don’t seem to be; it’s almost like they don’t see.
Bisi Gbadamosi
That’s almost exactly what it felt like. Or almost as if I were the exception.
Dr. Connie Omari
Correct it? Correct. I’m not even going to ask you what they said; I want to know that I won’t even want to dignify it. Because if I can imagine, I can imagine that I’m sorry you had to go through that. But the beautiful thing about you, and like you said, most of us who come into this, is that’s what makes us good at what we do. So it sounds like you’ve chosen now to jump into a space where we would have great stigma of mental health in the black community and really just relate to people on that level. Yeah, so do you mind telling us a little bit about what you do now?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah. So when that happened to me, I was still in graduate school. So now I am on the other side of that, and I am getting to work with clients one-on-one. And a lot of what I do with those one-on-one clients is help them either reconnect with some of their cultural roots and kind of see the beauty and the power behind it, or process some of the trauma they may have experienced when it comes to their identity and help them not let that be the story of who they are. And then, outside of my mental health and therapy, I am also pretty big on helping the conversation about mental health become more widespread. I’m really big on ending the stigma around it; I don’t want it to be a hush-hush conversation that we only talk about in the house now. I see the power of it, and it is part of our health, and helping people recognize that and feel safe by engaging in that conversation, talking about what they’re wrestling with, and being vulnerable is really where my heart is.
Dr. Connie Omari
That’s nice. That’s awesome. That is super, super awesome. You shared it with me before we could get started. I’m just curious about the income from sharing. With the population that you’re working with now,
Bisi Gbadamosi
yeah. So I mainly see women, particularly women of color or Christian women. And so that comes with some of its own hurdles in the sense that they often feel as if they have to carry it all on their shoulders in silence, you know, and that they have to loop through life in a certain way; I’m not sure if they are to fall off the expected path or to struggle at all, that they are doing something wrong in. So that is something I really try to help them see is not true; it is not who they are; they are more than just what they can do to serve other people, and I want to help them really move into their full potential of who they were created to be. So it’s not about redesigning themselves to fit a certain goal, but to look within, see what’s there, and break that.
Dr. Connie Omari
eautiful beautiful. So, um, what do you wish that these women knew about themselves, or that the black community in general knew about the stigma of mental health?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah, I wish they knew that they weren’t alone. I feel as though the stigma of mental health has isolated a lot of people, and a lot of people are suffering in silence because of it. Which is heartbreaking. Because if someone were to break their leg and need to be in a cast or in a wheelchair, we would all rally around them so quickly to help them. But if someone’s hurting in their heart or in their brain, they need to split them, but that’s still part of their health.
Dr. Connie Omari
And if they would get that part of their health under check, that might even prevent being in a wheelchair. You know, there’s so much connection between your mental health and your ability to help somebody who’s having a physical heartache but not a mental or psychological one. And we don’t understand, like, the correlation between heart disease, cancer, a lot of stuff, and stress.
You know, we used to hear the word stigma all the time, and I’m trying to, like, make it make sense because, when I was growing up, I didn’t know that there was a stigma against mental health. But I didn’t know a lot of people who are invested in mental health, which probably means that there is a stigma, you know? Can you tell us a little bit more about what a stigma looks like? So that you might also be going through something like that, you can kind of say, Oh, this is the stigma; this is why mental health and wellness are not promoted in my community.
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah, I would kind of break it down to the idea that there’s also a physical aspect to stigma; it’s something that you can send to them. Like, if you are able to sense that, when this conversation is brought up, the vibes are changing, like, people are more standoffish, you know, the congregation, and really quickly, or they get defensive, when it’s brought up, that’s a way you may be able to sense that there’s some stigma around this particular situation, and then look at the language around the station. So if someone were to bring up someone struggling, would they get labeled as crazy or someone who needed help? In a sense, that is judgmental; you know, in what terms? Are they using what is there? And so it’s not always very clear to you that something is taboo, right? But you are sensitive if you’re looking for the right things or if you’re checking in on yourself, and that’s something that people miss.
Dr. Connie Omari
You are so head-on. Because as soon as you started getting this description, I remember saying I had to be maybe eight. And I said I was depressed. I don’t even know if I knew what the press was. But I had learned that world and said, Oh my god, I’m depressed. And one of my eyes says, Oh, you’re too young to be depressed. What do you know about that? You know, that’s a stigma, right? You know, I’m putting my head down at a very early age. Don’t tell anybody. You know, I was probably not clinically depressed. I don’t, but I might have been. But I was sad. I was unhappy in that moment. But I learned that it wasn’t okay to be sad or unhappy, or at least definitely not to communicate. So good. Thank you. Thank you. So for people who are listening, has any of that resonated with you? Because you certainly do with me. Um, where do you see black families struggling and Christian families struggling the most around the stigma?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah, I would say a lot of it, like we’ve reached the point of uncertainty about what to do with it when the information is handed to you that someone you love and someone that you’re providing for is struggling in a way that you don’t understand. And unfortunately, that ends up presenting itself as a closing off. You know, you don’t talk about it; you keep it to yourself and don’t ask for help. And it’s created this generational cycle of not reaching out for help or not knowing how to verbalize what’s happening to you. And let’s not just say that people haven’t experienced it; it’s just that they’re keeping it so tight within their chests that they are essentially poisoning themselves, like they’re keeping the toxin in and not knowing where to find it out.
Dr. Connie Omari
I love that you said in your chest that you use the word toxic because we’re so disconnected and act like there’s this mental part of us. And then there’s this physical part of us that totally misses the interconnectedness, which is so true.
What advice would you give someone who is wanting to kind of try this thing out called therapy but is a part of this environment that you’re talking about and probably can’t really tell anybody that they’re doing it and is probably feeling shame and embarrassment on their own? Would you have to prepare?
Bisi Gbadamosi
I would say that, although that pandemic was very, very painful and very detrimental in a lot of ways, One beautiful thing that did come from that was more access to the things we have. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so maybe it starts by looking at some clinicians on Instagram or YouTube and kind of just hearing some of the basics. If you resonate with that, and then even looking online to see if there are therapists available in your area who you feel like you may be able to relate to, even just doing that first step of the research is a huge step in the right direction of getting some of that help in that knowledge and feeling that could be really incredible for your life.
Dr. Connie Omari
Yeah, I remember, you know, when I first got my first therapist, it was not a different effect. I just got triggered by it. She had recommended that I do something about the debt. I had an issue with a family member, and it’s causing a lot of stress. She made a recommendation that was the worst thing ever, but I trusted her because she was my psychologist. So I couldn’t help. But say, you know, think about how back then we didn’t have to, you know, we didn’t have Psychology Today. If you did, I don’t know anything about it. So, you know, it’s important to do your research first. A lot of times, you can get an idea of who the person is just by the way that they present themselves online. So yeah, that’s good. Yeah. So we chose this. She said, I mean, we have tons; we’ve interviewed probably 50 therapists. So our directory has a good 100 therapists up there. So I think we’re over 100 now. So yeah, definitely, we’re making ourselves noticeable. We’re getting out there; we want you to help. So thank you for that. What are some resources? So there’s therapy, which is great. We love it. We want to break the stigma. But we all know that there are a variety of reasons people can’t get into therapy. Because of financial accessibility. They can’t travel, or they don’t have access to the internet. They still aren’t there yet. Are there other sources of wellness resources that you would recommend? As you know, maybe not a replacement, because nothing can replace therapy. But you know, there are other things that can help.
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah, I wouldn’t say that. Thankfully, there are a lot of therapists who are also authors who’ve created really incredible books. I’m talking with one right now. Even if you take the step of going to someone who can hear your story tomorrow, just learning the idea of getting familiar with the language of do you know what depression is? Do you know that? There are books, there are podcasts like this one, and there are resources that are free and available in a variety of materials that should be used and encouraged to be worked through.
Dr. Connie Omari
Yeah, very good. Um, so you’ve talked with us vaguely about this being very, very important to make sure we address the stigma in the black community, but there’s also the stigma in the church. And then there’s a stigma in the black church, you know, which is probably the most precise. Where do we start with that?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Unfortunately, I think a big root of that is pride. Sometimes people don’t like hearing that they don’t have the skills to be able to help with that. And so sometimes, if you’re having a conversation with a church on angels, like, Oh, baby, just pray about it. If you’ve got a comfortable relationship with the church, you know that praying is a helpful tool already. And so you’ve likely tried to be dismissive of people who are asking for help. And I think by being able to humble ourselves and say, You know, I don’t really know how to help you with this, but I will walk alongside you as resources, I will help you in that area. I will continue to pray for you. But I see that there is more that needs to be done that I can’t do. And I’m okay with helping on that journey.
Dr. Connie Omari
Love it. Love it. So when you say it’s pride, at first I thought you were talking about the church member, but you’re talking about the pastor?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Oh, so I say that it is honestly a trickle down effect. There are pastors who would say to just pray about it or who say that pastoral counseling is the only constant you need. And that’s not necessarily always the case. And so, unfortunately, some people may take offense to them not having the right skills to work through any schoolwork. But I think it’s this misplaced fear or uncertainty, like I mentioned before, that’s unfortunately being directed at some mental health issues, and people have struggles. And he said,And he said, “We recognize that we have not done a good job serving this leader yet.
Dr. Connie Omari
Yeah, I mean, just based off of your example, I mean, I wonder if, if a church movement went up to a person and said, Well, I have stage four cancer, they would respond, Oh, well, we’re just going to pray about this. You know, and you pray. But we want to know if you’re seeing the doctor and staying on top of your treatments and chemo radiation, you know, what we need to pray about, so that the expert, we can pray that the ex when you get to is competent, who knows what he’s doing, is motivated to help you, has the resources and the desire, those are the things that we pray about. So, yeah, it’s important. It’s really important. Um, you know, you mentioned your own experience with George Floyd. incident in your primarily white shirt. Did I hear that correctly? It was. And I just, you know, because I actually had a pastor, not my personal pastor. So please don’t; I’m not saying that. But I did hear even a black pastor who said that sometimes, I think, even in our community, we feel obligated to kind of ride the fence. Because this particular pastor’s perspective was, you know, basically aligning with the well, he shouldn’t have been out there now, oh, wait, I’m thinking. Who was the kid with the skittles in the
Bisi Gbadamosi
Trayvon Martin’s dad grew up in New York.
Dr. Connie Omari
So it’s a shame that I can’t even get the case. Right. But yeah, and there are so many; I mean, that’s the point. You know, he can’t remember the names, but I just remember being disgusted with that. And I was like, What would make you say that, you know, you’d have an obligation moreso to align for your community because of your position of power, and you’re just totally missing the mark? So yeah, and that’s why I just can’t imagine what it’d be like to go to someone like that. Council, you know,
Bisi Gbadamosi
I think that speaks to the systemic problems that we have as well. If the story that we’ve been told in so many areas of our lives is that we are at fault, or we’re the problem, we start to internalize it, regardless of whether it’s true or not. When we do internalize that, it shows up in our actions and in the way we talk to people. And it shows up in women, which we use. And so it really is above and in the area where we have to do the work for ourselves, but also, once our society does better to NBC,
Dr. Connie Omari
You know, I don’t know if you feel comfortable going back this far. But you know, what we’re talking about, you said, generationally, you know, I mean, we say that, you know, we don’t really need to, which isn’t really necessary, but if you didn’t figure out what you were doing wrong, that could mean that you were wrong, according to their rules. But less is this their rule, and they got the power. You know, you could be hung from that tree. You know what I’m saying? You know, even today, I would say that in the black community, especially if you have a young man who’s starting to drive a car at 16, if you don’t have that, talk to him about how to deal with the white police officers. You don’t have to be white. Talking about the case that we just saw, but you don’t have to be white, you know. So that’s still wrong. You’re not preparing, even though I get that you shouldn’t have to, but you do. Okay. In 2023, we will still talk to our black boys about how to approach authority because they can get shot. Yeah,
Bisi Gbadamosi
I briefly mentioned that I grew up 20 minutes away from Trayvon Martin. And I don’t know; I didn’t know that. Okay. I remember my mom sitting my brothers down; they were 10 and 12 years old, giving the talk already about, it doesn’t matter. If you’re driving anymore, you could be walking out of a store. In your eyes, this is a practice. Not your character with just the way you look. It’s a practice.
Dr. Connie Omari
I was actually working in a hospital when that case broke. It was disgusting. It was absolutely disgusting. But I just remember the excuses and stuff like you said; they were making it, you know. I don’t want to dignify it with people saying that he should have stopped. He should have just listened to what they were saying. Like, first of all, who is this guy to be thinking that he just stops people, and you know that you’ve got to listen? But second of all, this dude was 17 years old. They’re all rebellious. They are, you know, whatever. So it was just, it was just, and I asked myself, What were you listening to when somebody told you to do a 17? You know, well, why do you think this kid would be doing that? You know, especially to somebody who didn’t have to listen to it, it’s just crazy. They say anything to him and explain why it’s okay to execute a black man for cold-blooded murder.
Bisi Gbadamosi
And to speak on the general generational aspects that you’ve mentioned, a big thing that I work with people to help them understand is that a lot of what we do today protects and saves our lives.
Dr. Connie Omari
Yes, you had to know how to guess, but I can’t wait to continue.
Bisi Gbadamosi
And so we need to honor that. But we also have to recognize that somewhere along the way, we stopped explaining the reasoning behind why we do certain things, and we’ve kind of gotten dismissive, but the way that those things were protecting us can now be uninteresting. Absolutely. So things like not asking for help, especially in instances of child abuse, you know, you’re taught not to talk about it to your teachers; don’t tell anybody what’s going on. And unfortunately, that puts a lot of pressure on that child. And it keeps them in an environment that is toxic.
Dr. Connie Omari
While also putting him at risk. I mean, another environment that’s messy, ya know, because our system is severely flawed. I mean, you know, seriously, we don’t hear a lot of good stories. I mean, not to minimize what you say. I’m just saying this is how deep the damnation is if you do it. You don’t, do you? Yeah. I mean, what can we do about it? I don’t even want it to sound like this helpless, you know, scenario like, How do we? I mean, I know you’re doing your part in terms of just educating and letting people know I met you on Instagram. By the way, do you mind dropping your Instagram handles for people who want to find
Bisi Gbadamosi
out? Is living with BC across all social media platforms You can find me there.
Dr. Connie Omari
Okay, good. So you’re putting out great content to bring awareness to this issue?
Let’s talk a little bit more. Can you give an example of something that was useful 200 years ago in terms of turning a blind eye to or playing by their rules? And you know, survival white? We might not need to do it today. You just gave me one. But I want another one. Yeah, you said
Bisi Gbadamosi
I would say, Stop crying, or I’ll give you something to cry about.
But if we say this to children, who don’t have emotional regulation skills and who’ve only been on this earth for 5678 years, this is probably life-altering.
Dr. Connie Omari
You’re absolutely right. If my daughter doesn’t have like a close, like matching and stuff at school, that you would think is like World War Three of the grade. And that really is a big deal for her. I had to come to terms with that myself. Like, that’s huge, you know? Yeah. Okay.
Bisi Gbadamosi
And I think so. What would be old school?
Dr. Connie Omari
Yeah, I remember that. And I brought you into this world. I’ll take you out. But I was wrong to say that.
Bisi Gbadamosi
That’s okay. I think the important part is that I would say, Being able to, if you do, say it, being able to apologize, and then sit with them and ask, Well, what’s this feeling for you? Like, what is happening inside of you? Why is this so overwhelming for you? Even to say, I don’t get it, This would not be that big of a deal for me right now. But I see it’s hurting you. So tell me about it. And it helps the child to know that you are safe to go to with big feelings. I will one day understand that that was an overreaction. But at least know that no matter what I’m feeling, my mom, dad, auntie, or uncle is a safe person. Bring those feelings to you.
Dr. Connie Omari
What about wedding goals? Just curious too far. Because, for instance, recently we had a birthday party for my daughter and we were having a sleepover, I obviously couldn’t invite 30 people from her class. So I will say she got into trouble. It was a little awkward to be able to give the invitations to the seven people that we invited because, you know, there are 20 of the people who are left out, and it’s this mindset of, you know, overindulgence, almost like we feel like we have to win. No, this is kind of going a little bit off. But I really want to give a balanced view of this. When we make a child feel like giving Uncas because the real world is not going to cheer if you’re upset, Right? So what I mean is, yes, I know, as Mommy, I have to be way more sensitive, caring, and compassionate. But I don’t want to give this false narrative that you can just go to all the birthday parties at the drop of a hat, or you’re going to all the birthday parties, because you know, you might not. And, yeah,
Bisi Gbadamosi
I think that’s where the conversation afterwards is so important. You may have any reaction at the moment. But if you’re able to take a step back and say, Okay, I’ve messed up yet, this is still something that is a rule for us. This is still something I need you to learn. And so you’re still the adult in this scenario; whatever your final decision is, it’s still what’s going to be there. But I think somewhere along the way, we forgot that the kids have no frame of reference for why things are happening. And so being able to give them space for that and then also helping them know that ultimately, you’re not always going to get it I think that’s where the safety aspect comes in. And I don’t think it could be easy to slip into the trap of coddling people, but if you were to take a step back and ask yourself, If I needed this, explain to me what would have helped me. And then giving that to others as well; it won’t always be a perfect fit. But doing the best you can and actually engaging in a conversation will always be seen in some way as better than just completely shutting down. This is my answer: if you don’t get an explanation, there’s a time and place for that if you have a conversation over and over, but to at least give them a chance to understand
Dr. Connie Omari
I love that I love it. So it’s like, We’re going to always get it right. Like, even if we can’t do it right in the moment, you could always go back and revisit it. So I think when you say that, that we need to talk about, because sometimes you get so overwhelmed with everything that we just let the conversation go, what types of things because I’ve noticed, like, the more I journal, the more I pray, the more Medicaid, things like that, the more present. So I can remember if something like that happens at the school in the morning, when I put my daughter to bed in the evening, I can see and say, Let’s talk about this morning, and that’s a lot easier to do when I’m doing those things versus when I’m not staying intentional about my mental health and forget to revisit it. And so then, you know, you don’t get those conversations. So are there tools and tricks that you might have to help us be more present, so we can do stuff like
Bisi Gbadamosi
that? Yeah, and I would also say that we are humans, and so we will never get everything. But I always like to remind both myself and my clients, your parents, that being disrupted and regulated is not going to regulate your child. So if it’s between regulating them and regulating yourself, take a break and regulate yourself.
Dr. Connie Omari
love that. I love that, especially for us black women, because we don’t know that one. We just think we have to work, and yeah, I’ve been guilty of that, too. So thank you for bringing that up. Whatever you listen to or read, like podcasts, books, or whatever, can kind of help bring some of these principles together for our audience. Yeah.
Bisi Gbadamosi
Um, every, or not every, I just started last year doing a black history month book club. This year, I did my grandmother’s in black history month. And so I will select a book each year for us to go through about different aspects of blackness, bringing in history and present-day situations. This year, I followed my grandmother’s progress on Medicare. And that integrated both police brutality and black culture and generational trauma. And I had resources for both exercises, including history, so that one I thought was really helpful. I’m in the process of reading about post-traumatic stress syndrome. Yeah.
Dr. Connie Omari
Love it, love it. Okay. Okay. And then, how is it?
Bisi Gbadamosi
I’ve got to take breaks. But I just see a little bit too much of myself. And so that’s something that’s important too: you don’t have to
Dr. Connie Omari
do it all in one day. No, how do you read? Do you read actual books or do you listen to audiobooks?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Oh, um, so when I am reading it for the first time, I like to have the physical books, so I jot down notes and tags and stuff. If I am reviewing it for either a series or a coarser client, I will do an audio.
Dr. Connie Omari
Okay, nice. Yeah. Good. Okay. And I only like to clarify that because so many people are saying things like, Why am I trying to read? or stuff like that. And I’m like, Yes, you do. You know, you can. I will put on a headset. You know, I don’t have a lot of time, like you’re saying, to actually have the physical book. But I put on my headset and a heartbeat and listen to showering or listen to Bluetooth while I’m driving my children to school in an hour and a half right there twice a day that I can. Yeah, so I get my books pretty quickly. Just do it. Stuff like that. So yeah, yeah. So we can make time for what’s important to us. So is there any myth about the stigma of mental health that you’d like to debunk for our listeners today?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah. Oh, I get this one a lot. I hear so often that therapy is just for white people. And that one is kind of like a double-edged sword. In the past, that was not in mind when they were creating resources, assessments, or even definitions for diabetes. Um, but that
Dr. Connie Omari
Right now, there is a diagnosis given to slaves who, like, if you have to be a slave, that is a mental illness. And they would, yeah.
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yeah. And then I think they changed, like, when they stopped using that term, they switched to schizophrenia in black males. Yeah, yeah. But, um, and so, although that has been true for a long time that we were not created in mind, there is still such a wealth of healing that is found in therapy and mental health. And so we are deserving of that, too. We’re deserving of that healing. And so maybe that looks like we have to take maybe an extra minute or two to look for culturally competent therapists and clinicians. It’s worth it to take that extra minute because we can get it and we deserve it.
Dr. Connie Omari
Absolutely. And there are a number of them; like I said, we’ve got them on our website. But one of the things that I’ve enjoyed is listening to how these therapists are taking these Eurocentric principles and changing them. In fact, I’m not sure when Dr. Love Food is going to be featured, but if she hasn’t been featured yet, look for her in our list. She had explained that Freud is the father of psychology, and Carl Jung is a really big psychologist and philosopher that has shaped the field of psychology. They went to Africa. You know, they went to our people to get the framework and then came back, and of course, they get credit for it. But yeah. But I just think it’s amazing that, you know, but anyway, um, so it’s life? Well, I don’t know. Is there anything that you want to add that we kind of haven’t touched? There’s a slight thing that you want to make sure black families know. What would that be?
Bisi Gbadamosi
I would say, at least start small. So you don’t have to rush to schedule an appointment with the top psychologists in your state. But even if it’s just 10 minutes of Googling something, that is a huge, huge step in bringing that feeling to yourself, your family, and generations to come. You don’t always know how one decision in the right direction can have an earth-shattering impact. But starting small is better than not starting at all.
Dr. Connie Omari
Well, we’re coming up on a part in the show called What’s Good.” What’s good is just when I give us a hypothetical scenario about a client. And I want you to kind of give me some feedback to see. Okay, so Chester is a 40-year-old black man who is married with one child. They are uncovering some marital problems, particularly surrounding money, and he just recognizes that he’s not necessarily happy in his marriage but does not feel comfortable. This is because I never had a therapist because I didn’t grow up in an environment where therapists were encouraged. What would you recommend for Chester? Yeah,
Bisi Gbadamosi
I would recommend that Chester start with some free materials online about what therapy looks like and what it could look like for black men. What it can do for relationships, like looking at some of the benefits of it. And kind of just looking at some quick videos of clinicians sharing what it is that they do, and then start working his way up if he decides he would like to do therapy. That’s wonderful. But for now, all he feels like he would like to do is just start learning, which is still
Dr. Connie Omari
loving. Well, all right, I think that’s all we have. I just think that you are. I just want to say thank you for your work and your commitments. He was very important because I’m not sure if you, from a working perspective, can do international stuff, but at the very least I want people to have access to you online. So other than Instagram handles, are there other places that people can find you?
Bisi Gbadamosi
Yes, I am on YouTube. I post new videos every Saturday. I have a Facebook group for women who are working through generational trauma. It’s an empowerment group. So I’m not doing therapy.
Dr. Connie Omari
Good, good. Give me both of you. Give me your YouTube and your Facebook. Make sure you send those to me so I can put them in the show.
Bisi Gbadamosi
Though YouTube is also blooming with BC like my other social media, and then the Facebook group is all true, It’s a long one. Okay. generational trauma empowerment group for women. So this is a women’s only group. But it is a private group. So you don’t have to worry about anyone seeing your comments on their feet. But it is a chance to learn about generational trauma and to grow with other women, your community, and discussion.
Dr. Connie Omari
I love it. I love it. I love it. Thank you so much. So there you have it. This is how you can meet Miss BC; she is doing amazing work. She’s working with those who have been traumatized. She’s breaking down stigmas in the black community that you still haven’t seen. So we want to thank you. You want to thank her brother for coming to the show and just sharing some of the awesome stuff that she’s doing with us. Thank you.
Bisi Gbadamosi
Thank you for having me.
Dr. Connie Omari
You’re very welcome. All right, everybody, that includes our show for today. Thank you for joining us, and thank you for allowing us to join you on your journey to a a healthy lifestyle and breaking generational curses in the black community. Peace and blessings.